Final debate season thought: What the heck does 'winning the debate' mean?

If the goal of the debate is winning voters, and all polls show no change or Romney winning more votes, and focus groups agree that 'Obama won the debate' but they decided to vote 'Romney' after watching the debate - then what the heck is a "win" for Obama in the debate?



I think people confuse winning a debate with winning a 'talking trash' competition. Yep, Obama won the 'I'm a condescending prick' issue with his 'horses and bayonets' remark. He also won the 'saying not true' the most times, and the 'the 80-s called back, they want the...' race. But what idea did he push out there that won? Which undecided last leaf on an autumn tree did he pick? Did he sway those who have already decided against him?

To be sure, I can see how the MSNBC crowd thinks Obama won. They are raving lunatics who see racists in everyone who disagree with them. In short, they are hateful morons. To them a victory is something that resembles an MSNBC evening show; shout matches, bullying, name calling, spreading lies and talking points, belittling, zinging, talking over, incivility, disrespect, childish behavior, and ... well ... plain stupidity praised as elevated thought.

So I'll give the MSNBC guys their participation trophy. For you numb-nuts, Obama is a winner. Savor in that notion and keep living in your pink and purple cloud. You can "win" that way as ofter as you like as far as I'm concerned. I just want the lying douche in chief who was responsible for the last 4 horrible years out. That will be the only "win" that counts.

US had drone over Benghazi during attack, watched by Pentagon, State Department, White House, but not Obama?

Well then, here are a few simple questions everyone should be asking:

• Why wasn't Obama watching? Did he stop watching and went to bed?
• Who was watching? Did Clinton watch?
• Why weren't forces deployed to assist?

More story and analysis:A Drone over Benghazi

This administration should change their logo to something along these lines:

Debate II notes: Obama's solution to world problems is green jobs?

I don't have the video, and I'll avoid trying to look for it too long. Romney said the US should invest in education in the Arab world to prevent radicalization (I disagree, because it is a lost cause). Obama said we should stop nation-building and do nation-building at home. Then he moved on to explain we need to retrain workers for green jobs. That we need green jobs. That we need green energy. These aren't the precise words, but that was the argument.

Can we please do neither? Is someone out-there listening?

Predictions for last debate

Based on the last two....

• Obama will say "not true" a lot
• Obama will interrupt Romney and call him a lying liar who wants to start a world war
• Obama will lie about Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Eastern Europe, Russia, China relations.
• Romney will be interrupted by moderator more than 20 times
• The "journalists" will give Obama a standing ovation cheer at some point
• Chris Mathews will outdo himself in showing how loony he is on live TV

And remember, winning by points means losing in the poll.

Update: Well -  I was wrong - I think Bob Schieffer did an excellent job. More to the shame of who-ever that woman was in the second debate.

Obama debate huge whopper: called Benghazi attack terror day after

Lucky for us, Breitbart.com covered this just two days ago:

Obama mentioned the word "terror" once in his Sep. 12 statement: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for." But the context of that statement suggests strongly that President Obama was referring to terror in general, not specifically to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi or the violent demonstrations at the U.S. embassy in Cairo.

Furthermore, Obama's reference to "terror" came near the end of his statement. His initial description of the attacks, at the start of his statement, portrayed them as an excessive response to the anti-Islam video upon which the Obama relied for days and weeks thereafter: "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification for this type of senseless violence."

Source: The Big Lie: Obama Did Not Call Benghazi Attack Terrorism on Sep. 12


Read it all and realize once more that Obama is just a lying politician. Nothing more.
PS. Anyone notice the president was asked WHO refused more security to ambassador to Libya, and he simply didn't answer.

Admire my psychic powers...

I wrote a "look into Obama's presidency" in October 2008: A Look into Obama’s Presidency

The piece was an analysis of Obama's expected impact on America based on his views and proclamations as well as policies of his former Democrat predecessors. I believe I got it %90 right, except he did murder the terrorists (instead of interrogate them - mind you). Which only means that on top of it all - he is a serial liar with no moral ground to stand upon. This is not about broken promises - it's about lacking any credibility even in the realm of values.

Regarding VP debate: I want some of what Biden was smoking

• Nuclear Iran? Bu-wa-hahahaha!!!
• Wasted 1 trillion on stimulus? Bu-wa-hahaha!!!
• Promised to reduce deficit by half and instead added 6 trillion in debt? Bu-wa-hahaha!!!

 Hey - he wasn't laughing only at Ryan - he was laughing at America. 

Obama campaign mixed in major donation scandals, obama.com owned by Chinese government?

Fun Monday. After a horrendus performance in the debate, it seems like Obama is finally getting some long due scrutiny - and today's headlines on Breitbart.com tell the story:


* Obama Campaign Has No Security to Bar Illegal Foreign Donations
* Windfall: Obama Raises $181 Million, Only Around 2% of Donations Reportable
* Report: Obama.com Vulnerable to Illegal Foreign Campaign Donations
* Bombshell: Obama.com Owned by Bundler in Shanghai with Business Ties to Chinese Government

I guess we finally know who buys all that odd merchandise on Obama's campaign website...